I heard Porty and Co. talking about this on their podcast and I don't get the fit. Jimmy Howard is not an upgrade over Bob, and it isn't even a lateral move. Sure you save a couple million in cap space right now, but I don't envision that as being a priority.
You'd have to do it in a way that involved the return for Bob being higher than the price for Howard, and that's tricky. Otherwise, I see this as a downgrade moving towards the end of the year with no real upside.
It makes a lot more sense to me for CBJ to try and acquire a netminder who still has at least another year on the books. CBJ needs a veteran who can compete for the #1 for at least another season. They don't need to win the job, but they need to push for it all season. There is enough uncertainty with what Elvis will look like at the next level to warrant having Korpi+another vet.
I think James Reimer is a great fit with CBJ. Steady goaltender with 331 games in the league. His $3.4 million is reasonable for a guy with a .914 SV% (Howard is .915 career is $5.29 AAV) and he's signed on for another 2 years after. That gives CBJ some depth, and security at that position without breaking the bank. I'd feel good about Reimer/Korpi/Elvis next season and whoever plays better wins.
That said, Howard makes sense if you can sell high on Bob and buy low on Howard with no plans to resign him.
Agree on all your comments Voloso.
I'm fine with Howard if he costs us less than we get for Bobs assuming the job will go to either Elvis, VV or Korpi next season (maybe sign a veteran backup this off-season).
I am fine with Quick knowing his $7 Million salary is only for one more year (perhaps a platoon with one of the youngsters) and then he is only on the books for $3.5, $3 and $2.5 in the final three years of the deal and should be movable or affordable as a veteran backup. I don't know how those salaries count against the cap when the AAV was $5.8 (do we get the AAV of $4 and LA picks up the extra $1.8)?
I am fine with Riemer as long as we see him strictly as a bridge...he's not a long term answer but a serviceable backup. If we are sending Bobs to Florida and getting Riemer back, Brass is not enough...they are gonna have to sweeten the pot quite a bit.
This word you keep saying...I don't think it means what you think it means.
No. Just no on Howard. Yes on Quick. Bob, something about long walk, short pier. Sorry for short comment. Just not feeling it right now
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Nothing's over 'til we say it's over!!
Howard is just to get us through the end of this year...or as a veteran backup going forward. If you could swing a 1st for Bobs (a non-playoff 1st rounder) and Howard for a 2nd or 3rd...that's an investment in your future.
No, I’m back and answering myself. Bob to Florida post haste for Brassard, and I want Vinnie Trochek. That gives us a great 2c thats signed for I think 4 more yrs at around 4.75.
You sell it to Florida by letting them know that really gets them the inside track on signing Bob’s little lap dog Panarin and this works well for everybody.
I do this deal all day everyday
The more I’m thinking about this and spending other peoples money, I give up Wennberg to Florida also, since we would be getting two centers from them.
And as the Grand Finale, trade our first rounder to LA for Quick to replace Bob until Elvis enters the building. I know that sounds crazy. Heres my logic we have a track record of crash and burn on first rounders with the exception of Nash and Dubois. At least you know what your getting with Quick.
OUT: Bob, Panarin, Wennberg,19 1st round
In: Quick, Brassard, Trocheck, more cap $
IMO aside from Seth Jones and PLD, the Blue Jackets don't have a single asset that could fetch Trocheck in a one-for-one.
I'm always a little cautious when it comes to trade rumors, especially around TDL time. No doubt, Jarmo, like any GM, is making the calls to see who's available. But a lot of rumors come from some sports writer who sees that player X is about to become a UFA/is one of the better players on a poor team/supposedly isn't happy on his team/whatever and player Y seems to be a good fit on player X's team, then suggests trading one for the other is a good idea. In other words, something a couple of ten year olds might come up with when trading their collector cards. And, more often than not, said rumored trade turns out to never have been contemplated.
That said, Howard has been rumored to be on the trade block most of the season. The sole reason I can see is that he's on a poor team and will be a UFA after the season. Plus most of these rumors state that Detroit wants a first round pick for him. If there is any substance to these rumors, I don't see any GM giving Detroit a first round pick for a goalie in his 30's who is more inconsistent than Korpi.