The Blue Jackets Made An Ultimately Unsuccessful Bid To Acquire Nikita Gusev from Vegas, Per a Report

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MordenoftheSith's picture

I'm ok with not getting him for more than NJD paid... He's an unknown...

If you only knew the POWER of the Dark Side.

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bluejacketsfanwpsl's picture

...and we might have enough of those already.

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Angry Panda's picture

I suppose it's a consolation that Jarmo and the FO have been (and still are, i'm sure) trying to improve and add pieces....but it's a little disheartening that we've only added 1 piece in Nyquist (whom I like and think will be a good fit). I'm still hopeful and optimistic for the season, just hope none of these close/almost moves that we've missed out on don't hurt too much once the puck drops. 

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Doggy's picture

Michael Frolik anyone?

This word you keep saying...I don't think it means what you think it means.

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OWSH45's picture

I tried to be a great lead guitar player to replace Ace Frehley in Kiss. That didn't work out, either. And other people care about that as much as I care about the Jackets "trying" to get anyone and failing. (And I'm doubtful Jarmo tried very hard to get Gusev, since the Jackets certainly could have offered up a better package of picks & prospects.)

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OWSH45's picture

I tried to be a great lead guitar player to replace Ace Frehley in Kiss. That didn't work out, either. And other people care about that as much as I care about the Jackets "trying" to get anyone and failing. (And I'm doubtful Jarmo tried very hard to get Gusev, since the Jackets certainly could have offered up a better package of picks & prospects.)

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CBJMatt's picture

Maybe he didn't think Gusev was worth more than he offered. Time will tell. 

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OWSH45's picture

Maybe. Yet, considering how cheaply NJ bought him, seems to me that a 3rd and borderline prospect could have been found and, if Gusev turns out to be a bust, no real harm done.

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CBJMatt's picture

Maybe Vegas thought the two picks were better value than a pick and a borderline prospect. It's why I hate playing the "what if" game on trades. We have no idea what the other side truly values.

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Doggy's picture

Matt,

Not to mention apparently only two teams showed any real interest in him and there may be plenty of reasons why he was had so cheaply.  That might speak volumes.  Experts are far from perfect but I am sure they know a heck of a lot more than we do.

I go back to Mathieu Corbeil...he was a goalie prospect we had who was extremely good in the Q for a season and a half: 63 Games, 50-11-2 record, .910 Save Percentage and 2.20 GAA.  I thought...how could the CBJ not possibly offer him an ELC and let him show what he has in the minors.  The CBJ passed on him (Scott Howson I believe).  That was 2012...since then he has struggled to play .500 hockey in the CHL, AHL, ECHL and Slovak league.

My point is...we don't really know squat about guys who have never played in the NHL.  There must be something about Gusev that scared so many others away.

This word you keep saying...I don't think it means what you think it means.

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CBJMatt's picture

I'm sure part of it is the contract situation/his demands, but you're absolutely right on the unknown with guys like Gusev. Remember Vadim Shipachyov? Vegas signed him to a 2 year, $9 million deal, and everyone thought he was the next big thing. He played 3 games for the Knights, refused to report to their  AHL club, and terminated his contract to go back too Russia. Maybe Gusev is Panarin, but maybe he's Shipachyov.

I'll trust the guys that do this for a living to make the right call. As I've said elsewhere, Jarmo and his staff have earned the right to trust their judgement for me.

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OWSH45's picture

If we really don't know squat about players who have never played in the NHL, why do I catch so much crap for not being on the "Elvis Merzlikins is going to be a great goalie" bandwagon?

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CBJMatt's picture

All I've said about it is I trust the guys that are making the decision to know what they have/don't have. Maybe it's misplaced, but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt on it for the time being.

In this case, clearly Columbus didn't think he was worth more than one draft pick plus the contract Gusev is reportedly seeking, and/or Vegas didn't think whatever middling prospect we may have tossed it was worth more than the second pick Jersey threw in. 

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