You're talking adding $13+ million and PLDs new contract. There's not enough room under the cap.
Maybe so, but the Jackets will need to shed salary in order to afford any free agent.
To all of you who are calling Z untouchable, you must want 1 round and out forever. Only Z, Jones or one of the goalies and several sweeteners are going to get the Panarin type player you want. So, make up your mind. Do you want the Jackets to be Cup challengers or playoff doormats?
Sports are supposed to be entertainment. Fun. I, for one, an tired of people making more in one year playing a game than I will in my entire life rushing to judgement, pontificating on how things should be (especially since some are barely literate) and bashing the very country that has provided them with the opportunity to make so much money playing a game. I'm done. Finished.
I've enjoyed the conversations I've had with many of you, but I'm finished with all sports. Goodbye and good luck.
I would prefer to get all the facts before making any decision. Of course, that's only 1970's thinking when we accepted the concept of "innocent until proven guilty" as the only acceptable version of justice. We also didn't riot and burn cities down because of assumptions.
1) Andy's agent is also Athanasiou's agent. Both players held out in the same year. 2) Offer proof that Andy wants out of Columbus.
I'm thinking that GMs are, at least, as smart as I am and they've seen Grubauer take the regular season job from him during their Cup winning season, seen him have two very average and inconsistent seasons after, and have seen him look all but lost as the Islanders booted from the post season and decide that there are better &/or cheaper &/or younger options elsewhere. I see him sitting on his arse until having to sign a bonus laden, small salary "prove it" contract with someone like Ottawa.
The Jackets didn't make a first round exit last season.
There is a reason that, except for subs, the Navy tries, very much, to not keep a ship at sea beyond two weeks. I've read a couple of reports suggesting that some of the bubble teams are seeing players who act as though they have cabin fever. Not surprising when their families are elsewhere and they have limited entertainment opportunities. Now, project that over an 82 game season which takes months. The military has a technical term for what the players would be about halfway through such a season, batsh*t crazy.
If Hall would be such a great addition, why are PLD's post season numbers, this year, a lot better than Hall's. Besides, I'm always against signing anyone to a big money, multi-season contract when they'll be 30 during the second year of the contract.
Holtby's also had consecutive so-so seasons.
The way I see it, we have VV and Daniil as projected high end starters, and Kivvie and Thome as projected solid to very good backups. So, trade whomever brings the best return. If that's Elvis, so what? Korpi is a high grade goalie and will still be behind, arguably, the best blueline corps in the league. Plus, it won't be long until VV, and then Daniil, challenges for the starting job.
If - and I strongly stress "if" - Wenns showing this post season actually is an indicator that he's turned some kind of corner and will even just be 75% of what he was projected to become, it would be a mistake to trade him or leave him exposed for the Kraken draft. Because, effectively, we'd have a #1C and three guys who could be the #2C on most teams in the league.
Honestly, I don't know. Look, if some GM is willing to give a higher pick in the first round for Andy and our pick, take it! Never look a gift horse in the mouth. And as one of my BUD/S instructors always said, if an enemy (opponent) is about to make a stupid mistake, let him! But I keep coming back to his injury. Well, and his hold out last contract negotiations. That kind of thing sticks in GMs minds. And you never get full value for someone who's had surgery until they prove themselves, again. So, it goes back to what I originally said, I'm on the fence about Andy.
I'm of the opinion that Holtby will retire due to lack of opportunities. Now, a hypothetical question for you and the General. You're the Jackets GM. Another GM calls and says, "I'll give you this 30-30-60 forward for Korpi or this 30-30-60 forward and a prospect who projects as a 20-30-50 middle six forward for Elvis because he has the higher ceiling", which deal do you take and why?
Tex isn't PLD. He hasn't played center in any high level league, save for the odd game here and there. It's pretty much guaranteed that it will be PLD, Wenns, Boone & Nash down the middle, next year. Unlike Matt, though, I'm not advocating looking for a center as I do expect Tex to split time between the wing and center, next season, with an eye to becoming the #2C the following season. And while Foudy has played center in juniors, he only has a few games in the NHL. He is not ready to be a full time center in the NHL. (Hmmmmm....PLD, Tex, Foudy and Wenns down the middle in two years? Interesting possibility.)
I'm on the fence about Andy. That said, I can't see Jarmo letting him walk. Big problem is his injury. While there was a lot of talk about him being traded at the TDL, I just can't see anyone offering much until he shows that there's no serious setback due to the injury. And if Jarmo qualifies him with a "take it or leave it", he'll just sit out, again. I see no resolution to the situation where the Jackets benefit. Either sign him to a cap scraping contract, causing the team to have limited options for improvement, or forse him into holding out so long his already lowered trade value drops to zero.
BTW, there's a crapload of spam in the Forum. Be nice if it was cleared out and the spammer was banned.
You forgot Thome, who ended his college career and signed his ELC. Not as highly retarded as VV or Daniil, but he may make Libby expendable.
Effing autocorrect. Dubi, not Sino. (How the @%$# did it get Sino from Dubi?)
The big thing for me is that, after signing PLD, Andy and Gavvy, the Jackets will be hard on the cap, even with Sino on the LTIR. That means any trade will have to be dollar in for dollar out. That's why I expect to see something like Savers and a prospect for one of Kapanen, Kerfoot, Johnsson.
While you state your argument well, you are overlooking a few facts that will impact the Jackets' ability to make worthwhile trades. 1) I have read estimates that as much as 2/3 of the league is pushing or exceeding the cap and will be looking to dump salary. The Jackets do not have sufficient space to accept a large salary. 2) Good bottom six forwards, of which the Jackets have too many, are a dime a dozen. Except as a throw in as part of a larger trade, there's no reason for another team to take on one (or more) of ours. 3)The Jackets had a plethora of defensemen last off season and we all expected one or more of them to be traded for offensive help. Didn't happen for some reason when the cap was expected to continue going up. There's more reason to expect the Jackets to start next season with the same exact blueline than for one, or more, of them to be traded for offensive help with a flat cap. While it is reasonable to expect more than usual player movement whenever the off season finally happens, expect the Jackets to make small moves.
Ahhhh, but snarling facts at him is a harmless way of releasing some of my rage.
Yes, I am. Damn, getting old definitely is not for wimps. Thanks for the help.
Maybe. Whichever of us is right, the future forwards do look like an exciting bunch.